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Andrew Heard's avatar

You know what might be nice? A film and television category for Substack writers.

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Alex Posey's avatar

There is a movies and TV category! To see it, go to your settings and click “manage interests.” You’ll find it by clicking into the Culture section.

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Andrew Heard's avatar

That’s for users looking for things to read. But in the Substack settings for writers? They don’t have a category. There’s one on Notes and one for readers but not for creators of the content. The closest you can get is “culture”.

Not the same thing.

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Alex Posey's avatar

Got it—for what it’s worth, you don’t need to manually tag your posts for them to appear in the correct subcategory; there’s some smart filtering happening in the app to get them correctly categorized. Given that, I’m curious if there’s some other benefit you’re hoping for that would come from manually tagging your posts?

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Andrew Heard's avatar

Also, just to point out something in your response? You say that you care about your creators and what they need. But when I and many others express something that we want? Your response is “You don’t actually need the thing you want.”

How do you think that gets perceived by Substackers on your platform? That you decide for us whether the thing we’ve been asking for years actually is of any value to us?

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Alex Posey's avatar

I’m sorry that that’s the way my question came across! It was not my intention. I’m asking because I’m genuinely curious why the movies and TV category we created isn’t meeting your needs, so I can share that feedback with the product team.

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Andrew Heard's avatar

This request existed prior to user profiles and prior to the existence of Notes. We’re asking it because it’s been an issue for a LONG time and the fact that you gave it other people and not us doesn’t necessarily fix the underlying issue.

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Andrew Heard's avatar

Well not to point out the obvious, but many of us in the film and television writing category feel as though Substack doesn’t value people in the category. One of your best sellers in the category recently expressed to me on Notes that they couldn’t help but wonder if Substack was trying to deliberately undermine the film and television writers on the platform by refusing to add the category.

They like many others felt that it might be better to go elsewhere and set up on the Substack competitor platforms. I have had a similar thought.

I’ve been on the platform for 4+ years and I have been asking for it the whole time. No one from Substack has bothered to respond. In the same time you’ve spent what’s probably been millions of dollars on adding audio features for podcasts, video features, Notes and live video.

But the simple act of adding a category? It would cost you barely anything compared to what you’ve invested in other features. Yet you refuse? What else are film and television writers supposed to conclude?

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susan conner's avatar

Thanks!

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Sarlos Cantana's avatar

I came here to say exactly this, lol. Hilarious that there's a 'Substack on Film' but no Film category! No poetry either and there's a bunch of those as well.

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Andrew Heard's avatar

But apparently they have time to spend millions developing more complicated features.

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Linda Leee E E's avatar

Watching "The Red Violin" with Samuel L. Jackson

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Sarlos Cantana's avatar

Right? 😂 Seriously, how hard is it to add a couple more categories?? Sheesh.

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Andrew Heard's avatar

You would think it’s something to just get out of the way so people will stop talking about it.

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Sarlos Cantana's avatar

Or something that shows that they actually value the input of their user base. Seriously, like you, I've been asking Substack for this stuff for years now. Like many others, their current categories don't fit what I do. But they're too busy courting TV personalities to give a shit.

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Andrew Heard's avatar

There are a lot of writers on here writing about film and television. I’ve been on here for 4+ years and Substack never had a category for film and television writers.

In that same time, Substack has added audio features, video features, Notes and live video features. All of which cost more than it does to add a category.

Yet no matter how many of us ask, they just don’t seem interested in doing it.

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Michelle Richmond's avatar

I moved to San Francisco from New York City in 1999 and never looked back (with the exception of a few years living in Paris). The Bay Area is an amazing place to be a writer--in large part because we have the best independent bookstore scene in the country., and because we have incredible literary festivals like Litquake, which has been doing a literary bar crawl for twenty years. Nearly 20 years ago, San Francisco Indies launched my career as a novelist with their warm embrace of my breakout novel, The Year of Fog, which was a love letter to the city.

All that...plus Seal Rock Inn.

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Paul Trayner's avatar

Suggestion.... Take "like" out of your vocabulary. Your use of "like" deminishes your communications; and you sound as if you just left Grade 8.

Secondly, before you speak try this, THINK about the difference between feeling and thinking.

Feelings don't mean a thing. However if you are in the influencing business you have more authority and logic if you are seen as a thinker and have reason on your side. There is too much chatter about "Feelings" (which are self centered and shallow and feelings mean zero in communications). And frankly you can't make people feel better. However you can talk about ideas concepts, behaviours and those you can influence. Otherwise it sounds as if you are a prepubesent 14 year old.

All this is meant to help.🤗

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Saige's avatar

It isn't helpful when the comment tone is arrogant and yours most certainly is - telling someone they sound like a pubescent child is insulting. You sound like an older man talking down to a child and this bright young woman is not a child. This is meant to help you reconsider your tone. I could put a blushing smiling face at the end of it but that would be inconsistent with my tone.

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Cassie Wilson's avatar

If the shoe fits, maybe you should consider, like, wearing it.

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Saige's avatar

Maybe critiquing using critique skills would make the shoe more wearable, and perhaps you could take your own advice. Sloppy language - your term can equally be evident in tone. The context is colloquial, not formal, grammar choices.

I have to say this is the first evidence I have seen on sub stack of clickbait type nastiness. Feedback can be constructive and constructive feedback is never ever demeaning of others.

I wish you the best.

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Amani Hope's avatar

“Like” is functional word in speech with many uses, and has been around for centuries. Do some linguistics research. Here I’ll do it for you: https://time.com/5592953/use-like-too-much/

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Cassie Wilson's avatar

Thank you for the link to the article, but, like, it is really, like, you know, crap. The word is empty-headed and over-used, fad-following, and extremely boring. There is no reason to substitute "like" which means nothing like the standard English word "about" for the word. English is confusing and convoluted enough without sliding into the habits of, yes, teenaged girls too lazy to think of the appropriate word, so they just use one for any of five or six. We can't blame all the ills of humanity on the still too-pervasive anti feminine portion of it. This isn't a diatribe against feminism, it's a diatribe against sloppy language.

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Francesca Phillips's avatar

Wow everyone are such snobs here!! At least she’s making something creative and interesting. Both your account and the other guy who ripped her apart have ZERO posts. So yeah. I wouldn’t give any weight to what you or him are saying if I were her. Of course there’s always ways to improve when you’re starting a new project. I had a podcast for two years and heard the likes and ums in the beginning but then fixed it as I continued to create. I think it’s awesome she’s putting herself out there for something good and trust she’ll keep improving as she goes

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Paul Trayner's avatar

Disagree.

Working with organizations and communication skills the effect and affect of the persistent use of “like, and you know” has an interesting impact. Measuring the listeners attitude towards content and competence, in the absence of like, the listeners state that the content and impact of the measege is reduced by

75 %.

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Anthea's avatar

I'm sorry to say that I found this really irritating! Perhaps what she said was interesting, but I was so thrown off by her constant use of "like". It made her sound like a silly teenager!

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Jasmine Sun's avatar

now you can see why I mostly write :) the “like”s are edited out of the essays, promise!

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Anthea's avatar

That's great, Jasmine….but you'd be an awesome speaker if you could just train yourself to eliminate them from your speech. It can be done!

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Francesca Phillips's avatar

Good for you putting yourself out there!! There’s always room to improve (I had a podcast for 2 years and learned alll about the likes and ums) but don’t let some of these rude comments from people who are posting nothing and adding nothing to better the world bring you down. Keep creating and building and improving. So excited to see how this keeps growing!

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Yasmin Luthra's avatar

Wow this is so cool, Jasmine!

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Jasmine Sun's avatar

omg hi yasmin!

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Yasmin Luthra's avatar

so cool that this just popped up in my feed! excited for you

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Steven A. Bienstock's avatar

Interesting post, but I was extremely put off by her continued over use of verbal pauses such as "like" and "you know".

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Amani Hope's avatar

I’d love to see more films like this on Substack

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Rosemary Welch's avatar

Looking back, I realize as a kid I loved writing - reports/research papers in school, minutes for meetings (the task of which was always given me, diaries ( but not so much), sermons as a pastor…. I hunger to do such. My adult children must have noticed that because one year I got journals from children and grandchildren alike! (I wonder what they want to know about me? ;-). )

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Rubén Miranda's avatar

What you guys are doing here is absolutely brilliant. A beautiful opportunity for us creatives.

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Dave Dougalss's avatar

Thank you. But please consider removing the word "like" from your vocabulary.

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Love the analog-style concept!

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Barbara Lee's avatar

Why does she have to say 'like' in every sentence? It makes her sound half-witted, which I am sure she is not.

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MJ Pramik's avatar

Gee, I'm a San Francisco published writer and wasn't invited...MJ

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Matt Bianca's avatar

very cool!

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Tom Violett's avatar

It would be interesting to film the gathering and conversations as well.

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Andrew Heard's avatar

I’m happy for them.

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